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With all my other shows on hiatus and Torchwood STILL not starting, I decided to give GA another try. Remember, I gave up on SGA four episodes into the current season, for lack of time and commitment, as well as structural problems with its... structure. But today I read Helen's incredible new story "17.5", was remined of how much I love John Sheppard and here I am, watching
( SGA 4x05'Travelers' )
( And one more cut to hide a spoilery question about season 4 casting that everyone probably knows about anyway )
( SGA 4x05'Travelers' )
( And one more cut to hide a spoilery question about season 4 casting that everyone probably knows about anyway )
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Okay, it's official.
I'm not watching Stargate Atlantis anymore.
( No spoilers, but opinions on the new season under the cut )
In Stargate, people were in danger and you could see it, because you were right there with them in the action. In SGA, you get the soundtrack instead, or on top of it, saying things like "you are in terrible danger, get out of there now, oh the danger is getting closer" . I mean, we all know nobody important is going to die anyway, so it's rather hard to make me believe that anyone is in danger, but with SGA? Sorry, it's just not working for me. At least in Stargate, you never knew for sure if someone wasn't going to get lost on a planet for a few months, or would, you know, die of radiation poisoning. Well, I guess you can't ever compete with a show that killed off one of its lead characters and then had him come back naked.
People say Rodney and John banter like Jack and Daniel, but they don't. Jack and Daniel would banter in their free time, in briefings, over breakfast, wherever. But not right before they were about to die, that's when they communicated without words. John and Rodney? Well, in the last ep, and I don't really think of this as a spoiler, so forgive me for mentioning it, in the last ep, Rodney - again - has to do something for which he has almost no time, and -again, it involves typing and "interfacing" or whatever, and that's when they banter. That's when John says something starting with "Rodney?" in that strange, reproachful questioning tome he often uses with him. And Rodney says something like "I know, I know, but blablabla" and STOPS TYPING.
Stops typing, thereby endangering and almost killing EVERYONE. (not that they show or SAY that, I don't think they even noticed). Okay, so it's not like I was convinced that they were in danger before, but really, this would not have happened under Jack's command.
But apart from all the structural things I dislike about SGA and apart from the very weak writing (and they knew better in the beginning, didn't they? Where has all the writing gone?), a large part of me deciding not to watch SGA anymore is that even after three years, I completely failed to fall in love with the characters. Hell, I've been watching "Brothers&Sisters" for a mere week and already I care more about every single character of that show that I ever did about an SGA character.
Yes, Ronon has a hot body, but I hot bodies are nothing without brains. (and I don't mean that he isn't smart, but if he is, he doesn't get to show it too often)
Teyla is wonderful and pretty, but way too... uncomplicated... for me to really care about her.
Rodney, well, I love Rodney because he is such an arrogant asshole, except that he is really not an arrogant asshole, but I've never loved him. Not even in fiction.
And John?
Well, I think there was a time when I cared about John. In the beginning, when he suddenly found himself facing a task that he wasn't REALLY ready for, wasn't really expecting to happen, because even though it is possible, who thinks that their CO will get killed on the very first day of the mission? I love John in fiction (if the fiction is good.) In fiction, he sometimes breaks my heart with this huge capacity for love that he keeps bottled up together with all his gayness. And with his stupid way of diving right into the action, not because it is the right thing to do, but because he simply loves action. I don't know who it was, but someone wrote that fic where Rodney reads John's personnel file, and someone had written about him that he likes danger or something similar, and then Rodney starts paying attention and gets himself convinced that John is going to get them all killed. THAT's a John I can believe in. I also had no trouble at all believing in Helen's John in the dom/sub universe (I'm so bad with story title and not online right now, it's something like "Take your clothes of as directed", I believe?), John, secretly looking for an authority figure, BECAUSE of his authority issues, works amazingly well for me.
What does not work very well for me is John being played by Joe Flannigan. Could he look more bored? Like, when he dropped to his knees in *does not go into details* a scene in the last ep? Is less enthusiasm even possible?
Yes, it's scifi, the science dialogues suck (often), but at least Carter managed to look thrilled that she got the chance to say her lines. John is just bored, and lately he has started to look as if he hates the world and everyone in it.
I think he needs a vacation, and since he is unlikely to take one, I'm going to take one from him.
Bye, SGA, it was nice. But nothing more than that. I'll keep reading people's reactions, so maybe I'll tune in from time to time if an episodes sounds good, but don't count on it. I ill keep reading fic, but that's only because all the cool kids seem to like you, and I like the cool kids' fiction.
Oh, Stargate, I miss you. I really really miss you.
I was going to be all grown up about your end, telling myself that we had ten good years, amazing years, that all good things have to come to an end sometimes. That maybe it was time to go. That it's just a stupid TV show and I would get over it.
But I'm lying.
I'm not over you. I'm not. I miss you like a piece of myself.
I miss you.
I'm not watching Stargate Atlantis anymore.
( No spoilers, but opinions on the new season under the cut )
In Stargate, people were in danger and you could see it, because you were right there with them in the action. In SGA, you get the soundtrack instead, or on top of it, saying things like "you are in terrible danger, get out of there now, oh the danger is getting closer" . I mean, we all know nobody important is going to die anyway, so it's rather hard to make me believe that anyone is in danger, but with SGA? Sorry, it's just not working for me. At least in Stargate, you never knew for sure if someone wasn't going to get lost on a planet for a few months, or would, you know, die of radiation poisoning. Well, I guess you can't ever compete with a show that killed off one of its lead characters and then had him come back naked.
People say Rodney and John banter like Jack and Daniel, but they don't. Jack and Daniel would banter in their free time, in briefings, over breakfast, wherever. But not right before they were about to die, that's when they communicated without words. John and Rodney? Well, in the last ep, and I don't really think of this as a spoiler, so forgive me for mentioning it, in the last ep, Rodney - again - has to do something for which he has almost no time, and -again, it involves typing and "interfacing" or whatever, and that's when they banter. That's when John says something starting with "Rodney?" in that strange, reproachful questioning tome he often uses with him. And Rodney says something like "I know, I know, but blablabla" and STOPS TYPING.
Stops typing, thereby endangering and almost killing EVERYONE. (not that they show or SAY that, I don't think they even noticed). Okay, so it's not like I was convinced that they were in danger before, but really, this would not have happened under Jack's command.
But apart from all the structural things I dislike about SGA and apart from the very weak writing (and they knew better in the beginning, didn't they? Where has all the writing gone?), a large part of me deciding not to watch SGA anymore is that even after three years, I completely failed to fall in love with the characters. Hell, I've been watching "Brothers&Sisters" for a mere week and already I care more about every single character of that show that I ever did about an SGA character.
Yes, Ronon has a hot body, but I hot bodies are nothing without brains. (and I don't mean that he isn't smart, but if he is, he doesn't get to show it too often)
Teyla is wonderful and pretty, but way too... uncomplicated... for me to really care about her.
Rodney, well, I love Rodney because he is such an arrogant asshole, except that he is really not an arrogant asshole, but I've never loved him. Not even in fiction.
And John?
Well, I think there was a time when I cared about John. In the beginning, when he suddenly found himself facing a task that he wasn't REALLY ready for, wasn't really expecting to happen, because even though it is possible, who thinks that their CO will get killed on the very first day of the mission? I love John in fiction (if the fiction is good.) In fiction, he sometimes breaks my heart with this huge capacity for love that he keeps bottled up together with all his gayness. And with his stupid way of diving right into the action, not because it is the right thing to do, but because he simply loves action. I don't know who it was, but someone wrote that fic where Rodney reads John's personnel file, and someone had written about him that he likes danger or something similar, and then Rodney starts paying attention and gets himself convinced that John is going to get them all killed. THAT's a John I can believe in. I also had no trouble at all believing in Helen's John in the dom/sub universe (I'm so bad with story title and not online right now, it's something like "Take your clothes of as directed", I believe?), John, secretly looking for an authority figure, BECAUSE of his authority issues, works amazingly well for me.
What does not work very well for me is John being played by Joe Flannigan. Could he look more bored? Like, when he dropped to his knees in *does not go into details* a scene in the last ep? Is less enthusiasm even possible?
Yes, it's scifi, the science dialogues suck (often), but at least Carter managed to look thrilled that she got the chance to say her lines. John is just bored, and lately he has started to look as if he hates the world and everyone in it.
I think he needs a vacation, and since he is unlikely to take one, I'm going to take one from him.
Bye, SGA, it was nice. But nothing more than that. I'll keep reading people's reactions, so maybe I'll tune in from time to time if an episodes sounds good, but don't count on it. I ill keep reading fic, but that's only because all the cool kids seem to like you, and I like the cool kids' fiction.
Oh, Stargate, I miss you. I really really miss you.
I was going to be all grown up about your end, telling myself that we had ten good years, amazing years, that all good things have to come to an end sometimes. That maybe it was time to go. That it's just a stupid TV show and I would get over it.
But I'm lying.
I'm not over you. I'm not. I miss you like a piece of myself.
I miss you.
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( And the squeeeing does not end (Stargate Atlantis thoughts, in no order because I am still squeeing and bouncing )
I'll write about Zero Hour later, and I'll also try to collect other people's posts in the memories again. I didn't have much time for my flist the last days, a good friend of mine was here and we went out a lot, but I don't have to work on Monday and Tuesday, so I'll try to catch up then.
I'll write about Zero Hour later, and I'll also try to collect other people's posts in the memories again. I didn't have much time for my flist the last days, a good friend of mine was here and we went out a lot, but I don't have to work on Monday and Tuesday, so I'll try to catch up then.
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