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( Aug. 22nd, 2006 12:55 am)
SGA, the surviving show (Bitter? Who? Me?) is tearing each other apart over a flashfic challenge. I find this highly amusing, because the whole debate is essentially one we just had - plagiarism.

If you "remix" a story without giving the original author credit, it's plagiarism. And don't come with the all fanfic is plagiarism argument, because it's not, at least not in the real legal systems in this world. (and I'm not going to debate this, unless you pay me 600$/hour or have studied law in the same legal system that I did). When you give credit, it could be anything. Asking, which - believe it or not - can sometimes be required BY LAW - is common courtesy. But the throwing around of legal terms and definitions by what cannot possibly be all lawyers, is something I find highly annoying anyway, so let's stop it. It's not like we are going to sue each other over a remixed fanfic, so who cares if it's allowed or not.

What I do care about is courtesy. And since common courtesy is so rare these days, it is my personal opinion that it should have been made mandatory in a flashfic challenge in such a large fandom. Not doing so it just asking for the wank (which could have been the whole point, for all I know).

But not only out of common courtesy was the opt-out option clearly the wrong solution. The reactions to the people who complain about having to opt out, show, that opting out for many people is equal with not being a team player. If you are a good fan and want others to have fun, you don't opt out from the remix. At least that's how I understood most of what was being written in the (now closed) comments.

Clearly, these people would think differently if they weren't writing SGA fic, but, say, NCIS fic. Because just the thought of one of the crazy NCIS writers* laying their dirty little fingers on the precious few stories I wrote in that fandom and turning my Tony and Gibbs, that I carefully, and I hope with success, kept male and mostly sane, into the "MINE! MINE!" screaming, bondage wearing, crying, at-best androgyn idiots with cats that this fandom seems to be so find of, makes me want to scream.

Maybe remixes in SGA fandom are fun. In NCIS, they'd definitely end in tears. Though, at least we wouldn't wank before that, because we are a nice, wank-free, if totally insane, fandom.


*except exceptions, and you know who you are.

Disclaimer: I would be less bitchy if my favourite show hadn't been cancelled just a few minutes ago. Sue me.
I was going to go to bed, but I'm having way too much fun ljing tonight.

[livejournal.com profile] nostalgia_lj created her own little wank machine over here, and the funniest things are being said.

Like:
"Stargate is large parts crap, with only the cohesiveness of the cast making it more watchable than Andromeda. And 90% of what the fandom seems to consider canon seems to exist solely in their own heads."

That is so true! Not the Andromeda part "duh!), but the canon in our heads. I don't think that person meant it the way I understood it, but I often thought that Stargate does not have enough canon. Sure, we have plots, sort of, and story lines, and things are happening very other week. But for a show that has run almost eight years, we know amazingly little about the characters. Let's not even speak about all the people that have mysteriously disappeared throughout the years (like Daniel's grandfather, Nyan, MiniJack etc.)

That's what I love about this show, the possibilities for fic are endless, and there are so many different versions of the characters that I like to read about and explore in my head. And none of them contradicts canon! How cool is that?

Btw, I don't get the whole anonymous commenting. I am not searching for the wank, and I really try to stay civil in my comments (sarcasm not withstanding), so there's really no reason not to sign my name.
Damn , I probably jinxed myself with that.

The other thing that comes up quite a lot are BNFs.
Seriously, I never understood the whole BNF thing. When I first came across the term, the only explanation I was given was that it stood for Big Name Fan.
To me, that were/are people that the majority of fandom will recognize, no matter how good they are. For example Destina (on the good site), or Biblio, on the other end of the scale. (IMHO, of course, let's all stay nice and polite here.)
I had no negative or positive association with the term BNF, it was just another word for someone who is fairly well-known.

ThenI learned that BNF are scary people who will make fandom do things against its will, influence the writers of the show, discriminate new fans etc. Bad BNFs.
No cookies for you.

*pauses*
WTF???
There are people who don't dare to unfriend someone because he/she is a BNF??? In their own lj? Their liveJOURNAL. (notive how I emphasized the journal righ there? Yes, that's right, it's something personal, you get to chose who reads yours and who doesn't)
What are they afraid that's going to happen if they do?
Will the fandom sky will fall down on them, the masses come running and stamp their lj into the ground?

I know it sounds strange coming from someone who spends so much time in fandom, and I mean it in the nicest possible way, but seriously?
You might start thinking about leaving the house again some time soon. Talk to real people. Stay away from the twinkies, they are bad for you.

How does one become a BNF? Do they get up one day, receive their hundredth piece of feedback, and decide, Now I'm a big name fan, come to me my minions, for I shall make you do things and will from now on rule the world?

I'm seriously sorry for those of you who have to worry about these things. It sure is more fun to be an unknown little fan.
Though I'd kinda like the minions, they sound very useful.
*g*

Btw, in the above mentioned thread, I found this definition of a BNF:

" If you write mpreg-incest-Charlie Brown / Big Bird fic, will they love it? Then you're a BNF."

*laughs*
You know, i'd totally read this, coming from a so-called BNF or not. Cause I'm a pervert, and I'm going to hell anyway. ;-)

[livejournal.com profile] katie_m? If you are looking for the wanky side of lj fandom, that's where you'll find it.

And just in case you are wondering: no, I didn't post anything anonymous over there. I like fandom, and I even like that part of fandom sometimes. It doesn't make me angry, though there are some things that make me shake my head in disbelief and the nagging suspicion that mankind is doomed.
But my life is way too real for me to get seriously angry about these things. And if something does annoy me, you'll read about it here.
(okay, I admit, it's all about the icons. Anon comments won't let you use the icons.)
*gets all angry and worked up about not being able to use icons anonymously*
oceana: (Default)
( Aug. 8th, 2004 10:07 pm)
Okay, why did no one inform me that the Stargate thread was open on [livejournal.com profile] fanfic_hate? I missed all the fun! Okay, people are mocking beagles all the time, but still, Stargate, badfic, wankiness.
Actually, it is amazing how many people are posting with their names. There are almost no anonymous posts, unlike in other fandoms. I wonder what that says about us? Are Stargate fans so nice that no one has to hide or are we so wanky that we want the wank to get personal, therefore revealing our identity?
I commented with my name, of course. It's fun, trust me. I never understood why people got so wanky about [livejournal.com profile] fanfic_hate. Some voices need to be heard, but they are too quiet and scared if they post under their names.
And imagine coming to a fandom where Beagle fic is the holy grail, and no one dares to speak out against it! *shudders*
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